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All well and good but I never mentioned performance. Of course they’re able to do the job, no doubts there. But the bottom line is US companies are firing US workers not because they need to, but because they want an excuse to hire cheaper workers through an immigration program.

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There is nothing at all special about a US worker.

Welcome to the world, where people who aren’t from or in the US also need to feed their families, and have just as much a right to do so as Americans do.

So what stops them from doing it in their host country?

And if their host country is non functional what should be done about that?

Are you arguing we should bring back colonialism? Or are you arguing that all the most capable people should live in one rich country and the rest of the world should be an endless slum?

Maybe all these capable people should work to reform and improve the conditions of the country where they are.

Nothing, and many do. Many also are free to come here.

Welcome to the world, where people who are from the US need to feed their families, and have just as much a right to do so as immigrants do.

See the issue? Just because we accept immigrants and they benefit the economy doesn't mean everyone is magically happy. Do you think the US should support every poor person in the world? Can it?

Yes and yes. People want to contribute, people want to work, the more people in the US the better off the US is, full stop.

You'd be fine with us going from a population of 3XX million to, say, 3 billion? I feel like there'd be a few problems with that. Can we annex other countries then? I'm not trying to be facetious; I genuinely don't understand how "immigrants good" translates to "literally anyone who is willing to work should be allowed and there won't be any logistical issues because why would there be".

A reductio isn’t going to work here, sorry.

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