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Reportedly over 30 million users.

they recently rebranded xbox live gold (required to play console games online multiplayer) under the same name as their game streaming service.

I think you actually have to pay for the Ultimate tier. Their branding is SUPER confusing.

If you play on PC, PC Game Pass gets you access to hundreds of games but no streaming.

If you play on Xbox, Game Pass Core gets you multiplayer and a few free games but no streaming.

If you want streaming or play on both PC and Xbox, the Ultimate membership gets you everything.

If you want just the PC games and streaming, you can sign up for PC Game Pass and separately for Nvidia Geforce Now, which streams a subset of Game Pass games but at much higher quality and performance.

> Their branding is SUPER confusing.

it wouldn't be a microsoft product without 8 different editions

correct. only xbox live ultimate comes with gamepass streaming, and I think EA play comes with the ultimate edition as well but not the other tiers.

> xbox live ultimate

There is no such product. The comment you’re replying to said it correctly.

I dont see how that materially affects my post, which is correct aside from the unimportant branding.

I think we should just start calling it Xbox xCloud Live Gold Pass Ultimate 365, just to be sure. If Microsoft can't choose, we'll choose for them.

It points out that the only thing your post adds to the discussion is misinformation.

I see you lack the ability to self reflect

To be fair, Microsoft has changed the name of that service several times over the last few years. Even as a member I couldn't figure out what they were talking about because it would get a new name every few months.

To be clear, my answer is wrong or at least misleading. 30 million is the approximate number of game pass subscribers (not including core). When I posted this I missed the word "streaming." Apparently the game streaming service is now a higher tier of the regular game pass service, but that's kind of a technicality. 30 million people are not using their streaming service, afaik.

Thank you to the people who corrected me.

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