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Has anyone bought any electronic device made in China that wasn't cheap: cheap quality, cheap price? Now we're supposed to trust that their electronic cars aren't like every electronic device ever made there? Trade protectionism is saving Americans a lot of grief.

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My iPhones have all been quite nice.

(I’m usually buying them one generation old on the used market, so I’m not even seeing them at their best.)

I did. ZWO cameras and mounts. Amazing astro equipment engineered and produced in China.

Definitely. Apart from smartphones, my Roborock beats my parents' Roomba across the board for the same generation. Price, UX, and cleaning ability. There is no intrinsic advantage to buying American*

* shipped from China

All components used by Apple are designed and manufactured in China. Apple just slaps their logo on it.

More like 85+% of the entire iPhone BOM are still made outside China. Most key high-value, high-tech components like OLED display, AP, wireless modem, storage (NAND/DRAM), camera sensors, etc, are designed and manufactured by non-Chinese companies. China makes mostly low-value, low-tech components and assembly/packaging.

Where are the components you mentioned manufactured?

The US, South Korea, Japan, etc.. China about 3.8% in the iPhone 14; and 4.5% in the 13:

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/iPhone-14-teardo...

Thank you. I appreciate the background info.

They also demand a level of QC on their product that other manufacturers that I have seen don’t.

My chinese made car (MG ZS EV) is pretty nice.

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