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Screw everyone who wants to enforce their sovereign laws when you do business on their turf? That seems a bit shortsighted.

While I agree with the idea of your comment:

Whose turf is the Internet?

There is no 'the internet'. As much as my cypherpunk heart would want there to be, in the end you have hosts (clients, servers) and subscribers (people) and those are located somewhere, and the laws of that place dictate what you can and cannot do.

This is also why bulletproof hosting never ends well.

The Internet is a space: it does not belong to anyone as a whole.

What the EU is trying to enforce is accessibility of certain internet content on their land; it's like building a wall on a parcel of land you own, to prevent stuff from entering from elsewhere. Wise or not, it's not an unreasonable kind of desire.

There's https://rutube.ru/ as well.

It actually sucks. The worst video platform in Russia. VK Video and Dzen are way better.

VK is the most underrated social network.

How are they not EU companies also if they operate in the EU?

You should be thankful for the EU, they're at the forefront of good things for citizen. It's like California but 20 years ahead.

> they're at the forefront of good things for citizen.

Ah right, good things for citizens by wanting to 'ban' encryption. Because 'think of the children,' or some such. Most world governments aren't your friends, as much as you'd want them to be. EU *DOES* do stuff that's bad for their citizens. Just because they did x or y you agree with doesn't magically make them protector of mankind.

https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/chat-control-2-0-eu-governm...

Especially when it comes to progressive surveill- I mean security laws.

> You should be thankful for the EU, they're at the forefront of good things for citizen. It's like California but 20 years ahead.

There are a few good laws/directives regarding consumer protection, however, the EU is going nuts on internet surveillance and policing, resulting in absurd legislations that are going to hurt EU startups and IT businesses and their own citizen's freedoms IMHO.

Already are hurting. Example PSD2, I can't automate checking bank transactions anymore without paying for a 3rd party.

I can't offer free webspace with ads or host anything free anymore because I'm now responsible if the user writes anything unlawful.

Just 2 things.

As an American, I'm glad someone who shares interests with the US has the competence and power to regulate our tech megacorps. It seems like our government is totally disinterested in doing it themselves.

Useful regulation, if such a thing exists, does not take the form of arbitrary censorship of publishing.

The fact that anything a government points a finger at and says “terrorism” is literally illegal to disseminate should terrify everyone.

We need to threaten Europe with 100% tariffs until they turn off the GDPR warnings.

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