--My question as well. Am I missing a published date on this podcast? It’s my first time seeing their content. This isn’t their latest episode and I am wondering how recent it is.--

Edit: it’s from April 27, 2023. I did miss it. Says it on the linked page

Have you seen Michael Levin's talks about this subject before? It's his team's original research.

This year levin's lab has been on heavy presence online.. don't know much more.