Oh just to be clear, I fully agree. I brought up the counterforce vs countervalue topic because I thought it was an interesting way to further the discussion. But I have to admit that the arguments in favor of "they would only target our silos and major bases" never really convinced me. I just wanted to point out that nuclear weapons aren't that powerful and can't destroy an area hundreds of miles in diameter. The real danger as you said is that major powers have huge stockpiles and can basically afford to blanket an entire continent with warheads. Which mean guaranteed game over for both parties.