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Agreed it’s out of control. But in the past year I’ve transitioned to a platform team so I’m working with devops-ish tooling for the first time. Holy shit…the amount of complexity there gives front-end a run for its money. You’ve got Kubernetes, Helm, Terraform, CircleCI, yadda yadda. The amount of layered terminology in just those technologies alone is absurd.

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As a mostly backend dev, maybe I'm biased but all the tech you listed there isn't layers of stuff. Each of those do something different. For all but FAANG, kube is overkill. Helm is just templating. The rest existed before DevOps was a term.

Was replying saying mostly this. I stay away from most of that kind of stuff and work in embedded-type space mostly, but when I have ventured in there, it all kind of makes a certain amount of sense as modules that layer relatively independent of each other. Because, well, most things interoperate via Rest or gRPC or whatever, without a lot of coupling.

The problem with the JS/TS/Node ecosystem is the cultural tendency there to build and proselytize frameworks. Heavily coupling seems to be seen as a positive rather than negative.

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