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Comment by mellifluousmind | Hacker News Reader

For someone coming from other language background, including C#, JavaScript, Ruby, I find PHP absolutely unconventional, odd, unexpected, and inconsistent.

This is not a language, where you expect intuitively on what method to call unless you do a StackOverFlow search on existing problems, raised by others like me.

Yet, I currently develop a web app on PHP. Certainly, I can't wait to move over to Ruby or other languages in my next project.

The author is stating the obvious. But he/she has every right to do so, because PHP is simply not user friendly enough to programmer. If PHP truly targets non-programmer, they totally succeed in their goal.

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I'm not defending PHP, and I'm not claiming the author "has no right" to make their post. What I am saying is that this post has no value, as it's simply a summary of the same posts we see here week after week. This isn't just stating the obvious, this is literally rehashing the posts (he even cites the sources, which I do commend him on) that have already been made.

The point is the PHP circle jerk is getting old. I don't see the value in repeating the same discussions every day, and most of these posts just reek of exploitation- these authors know php bashing will get upvoted, so they write an article, submit it here, and wait for the traffic to pour into their otherwise unknown blog. I just think we'd all be better off if they actually wrote something useful.

To be fair, while the author is a friend of mine, he's not the one who submitted it, nor did I consult him before doing so. So if anyone can be claimed to be exploiting this for upvotes, it's myself, not him.

What I am saying is that this post has no value, as it's simply a summary of the same posts we see here week after week.

Actually, I would state that, "a summary of the same posts we see here week after week," does indeed have value. Now you can bludgeon the next guy who posts a PHP rant with a link to this one.

Yeah, I'm tired of PHP bashing too -- BUT! -- this is probably the best written article on what's wrong with PHP that I've ever seen. So... kudos to the author for a good argument.

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