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I don't understand why people keep falling for Google's ad campaign. Google have its lead in AI playing video games and board games. It is cool, entertaining and all that jazz. But OpenAI and MS are the real leaders in real AI.

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https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.03762 https://research.google/pubs/attention-is-all-you-need/

let's not forget where this breakthrough came from, i wouldn't count Google out

I hope you are correct yet Xerox and Kodak paid for plenty of breakthroughs, did they not? Google faces a similar "innovator's dilemma" challenge: successful companies often struggle to embrace new technologies or business models that could disrupt their existing, successful products.

This is a very ignorant comment. AlphaFold is far more useful than ChatGPT and remains a more impressive piece of technology, even if it doesn't help you write boilerplate code.

Even if you don't think Google doesn't have a talent or product chops to be leaders in AI, Google can do things cheaper than others because of their infrastructure. When they do release something useful they'll probably be able to offer it free and force it on people on the most visited pages/most used browser. Surprised how many people think having a years head start means OpenAI and Microsoft are going to always be ahead

I have been waiting for Google to release a decent translation model, but it seems they will only offer a cheap one. DeepL has been besting Google Translate for years. Why? I think Google has aversion to making large models public.

I don't even think Gemini Ultra will be free. They said it will be offered on "Bard Advanced", so not standard Bard... Which makes me thinking that it might be paid.

> they'll probably be able to offer it free

Why do you way they will 'probably' do that? Do you have any information to back that up or is this your speculation?

It's because no one can see Google doing this without gimping it to prevent it from cannibalizing ads that gives OpenAI staying power.

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