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With the need for active cooling, I am no longer convinced Rpi is that great anymore. I loved mine 3b+ but at this point a cheap x86 sff provides much more utility at similar cost and power levels.

The Ryzen 7840 stuff is great but even a 5800 would be fantastic. They have been getting quite cheap lately.

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An 8GB Pi 5 costs $80. For another $20 you can get a case and power adapter. What Ryzen SFF can you get with everything but a disk for $100? And how much more power would it use?

If you know of such a product I’m very interested. It’d make a great base for a router.

I remember a time when the Pi was just 15 euro. Now it's nowhere near that.

There are plenty of x86 dual and quad cores around 100-150 "dollars". They are just as bad as the new Pi. Better spend a bit more and get a much better product.

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