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I think the problem with the right wing politicians was that they were presenting their warped view of reality as fact?

As if the left wing politicians dont also present warped facts.

Left wing politicians have the tendency to overstate things, but (in my experience) they don’t often make up things altogether.

Something about the idealism required to be a left wing politician in this political climate?

Not to the same degree or extent… the departure from reality and rejection of any facts they don’t like, rejection of scientific thinking, is waaaaay way more of a right wing problem.

That's what everyone says when they want to censor someone they don't like

I’m fairly certain this was found to be true by various sources.

Of course if you are already disinclined to accept that because it doesn’t align with your view of reality, there’s not much I can say to change it.

If you provided the sources it would help to atleast have a productive discussion of the merits of that point of view. Without the sources it just sounds like you don't like right-wing politicians.

While that is true, I have found that quoting sources doesn’t particularly help unless people are already inclined to believe me, so it just wastes my time to find them every time.

Might be cynical, but ultimately I don’t really believe I can change any minds just with a comment. If you ask why I make the comment in the first place then, that’s a good question.

That is quite understandable. I don't think you not wanting to waste your time finding sources is cynical. The part about not believing minds can be changed might be a bit cynical, but probably warranted given the state of online discourse today. I'd suggest tho not looking at it as trying to change anyone's mind so much as having just a productive discussion where all parties involved learn something, e.g. with sources being explicit there's prly details that would be learned on both sides. Anyway, happy holidays

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