I’ve generally found ex girlfriends don’t want you back after you dumped her.
I suspect this will also be true for the UK and Europe.
I suspect this will also be true for the UK and Europe.
Maybe after one generation things will change but for some time I think not much will change on this topic.
Come to Australia where everyone is greedy selfish and recalcitrant.
Australias politics is essentially “my money” as priority one two three then other stuff like environment.
The Euro is not a requirement (obviously) of being in the EU. If the sovereign UK or sovereign Ukraine or sovereign Sweden (or Norway, or wherever) want to acquire/retain EU membership but don't want to adopt the Euro, then that's absolutely their right.
The EU is a wonderful (and of course imperfect) organisation because it is democratic, because it's a voluntary association of democratic states. Yes, being a member has some basic requirements (like upholding rule of law), but let's not pretend it has to be all or nothing.
The UK will I suspect one day rejoin the EU, and when it does, it will be two mature political entities coming to a mutually beneficial agreement.
Likewise the EU gets to say "The Euro is a condition of joining, if you don't want to switch currency stop asking to join".
The UK may or may not be able to give the EU a reason to let them in without signing up to join the Euro, but given the current lot I doubt it.
> The UK will I suspect one day rejoin the EU, and when it does, it will be two mature political entities coming to a mutually beneficial agreement.
For it to be only two, that will take a while. Right now it's 27 member states and the EU as a collective entity on one side and the UK as another; this isn't like the USA where nobody negotiates with just Massachusetts on customs, border controls, and which court oversees trade disputes, but instead goes to just DC and they decide for everyone else.
They negotiated an opt-out. That's likely to be much tougher if there's a second go around.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/summary/united-ki...
> When the Maastricht Treaty was concluded in 1992, the United Kingdom was granted an opt-out clause, meaning that it was not required to participate in the third stage of economic and monetary union (EMU) and consequently introduce the euro.
The customisable membership (and again, certain core principles cannot be customised of course) is a strength of the EU.
UK-EU negotiations now would be a very different power dynamic than they would've been in 1992. Yes, they can, as a sovereign nation, continue to exist outside the EU. If they want to rejoin, though, they're probably going to have to make concessions.
(The parent analogy is, perhaps, apter than you imagined. If you leave home at 18 by saying "fuck you, I hate you, I won't ever live under your rules again!" they may not necessarily let you come back a few years later with the same no-rent policy you previously had.)
Nothing says ‘commitment’ like “Sure let’s get married but I want separate bank accounts”.
From the outside it always looked like British politicians used the EU as a convenient scapegoat much strongly than in most other EU countries which caused much of the population to have strong negative opinions. I think in many of the other EU countries this tactic has died down significantly at least within the major parties.
I’d love the U.K. to join schengen though.
Nobody would land by boat in the U.K. to get into the schengen area (assuming Ireland also joined)
Brexit made me terribly sad the second I heard of even the suggestion, before it won the vote. Then, when even the people who were against it just shrugged and said "politicians just have to go by the non-binding referendum, or they won't get re-elected", I was furious and frustrated. I spent all my resentment right then and there, screaming into the void. Now, I'd love to see this stupid bullshit get corrected, yeah. No hard feelings, no grudges.
> [..] if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less [..]
-- John Donne