The full audio of that was recorded but was never released -- this is reminding me that I should loop back with ACM to see if they still have it and can release it. In particular, I want to see how long the pause when Arthur responded to my question "What do you think the analog for software is?": I won't give away his answer, but it more or less detonated my brain -- and it took me what felt like minutes (but was surely only seconds?) to put myself back together and ask a follow-up.