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Every non-Thinkpad Lenovo I've had, or a relative has had, has the build quality of a cheap toy, and eventually, some part of the plastic case would crack, a hinge would fail, or similar.

I'd absolutely never buy another one ever.

I'm not looking to buy a new laptop for many years, and I hope a Thinkpad version comes out before then. This is very much a design I appreciate. For now, from the photos, I think Asus did it better, though.

Hopefully, by that point, they'll also be 4k displays. My current laptop has 4k, which is very competitive with dual 3k.

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I actually switched from Thinkpads to a Legion 7 2021 and I'd recommend them over Thinkpads. It is by far the best Linux experience on a Laptop I've ever had.

* upgradable RAM

* two NVMe slots

* actually good keyboard (that unfortunately is part of the case, but replacement parts are available)

* the glass touchpad is better than my P14s with the X1C glass touchpad mod.

* the panel and refresh rate is very good and there's no lottery.

I don't know why Lenovo cuts corners on their business laptops, especially in the last two points.

It's heavy, but I don't lug it around too often, and having a 140W (max power spec) 3070 is great.

Just avoid placing them vertically on a stand, I had to replace the thermal assembly eventually.

I find all laptops suck. (Not tried Apple though) and so gone for the Dell option (knowing it’ll fuck up like any other laptop) and then going hard on the accident damage, extended warranty, home service etc. Well worth it, had em out 4 times in first 4 months :-)

I agree. I have used HP, Dell and Lenovo laptops and all of them suck in terms of build quality. I use a Macbook for work and even though I hate macOS the build quality of the laptop is exceptional. There is obviously a huge price difference in Windows vs Mac laptops. I am willing to fork additional money to the Windows laptop companies if they can guarantee a well built laptop. But looking at their track record it doesn't seem worth it to pay thousands to get a crappy laptop anyway.

FYI: My Thinkpad has better build quality than any Macbook. My Dell was comparable.

The key thing about Dell and Lenovo is they have a byzantine set of laptop lines, from plastic craparific up to rather good. A top-of-the-line Thinkpad will set you back more than a Macbook, but will be better built too (and faster). Dell doesn't go quite as high, but still goes pretty high in quality.

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