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Kagi allows users to adjust the ranking [0] of certain domains. I'm not sure if that's shared among all users but it would certainly help.

[0] https://blog.kagi.com/kagi-features

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Fellow kagi user here. I have been very happy with the service so far. Switched over to it when they announced their new pricing model a little while ago. It is more than worth the cost. Even without tweaking, the quality of results is far higher than what I had gotten used to getting from DDG or DDG with !g. The ability to rank domains is amazing though.

Kagi has improved immensely and I no longer ever feel the need to check Google against it. It's a great product that I am more than happy to pay $10/mo

I'm so happy that their new pricing scheme has done away with search quotas. Their claim that the average user does 100 searches a month seems absurdly low. I would blow through my 300 search quota in a few days.

I average about 60/day since the pricing update. Fewer than I expected, but enough to hit the quota in under a week.

Every time I see someone talk about this feature on HN (almost every day) I get jealous, it's such a good idea. When I'm searching (on google) I'm always thinking; when I get Kagi I'm gonna downrank this site, uprank that one etc.

I'm curious, why haven't you switched to Kagi yet?

For me… I don’t want my search tied to my credit card. I go through lengths to keep my digital and analog domains as separate as possible.

> don’t want my search tied to my credit card

Pay with Bitcoin [1].

[1] https://blog.kagi.com/accepting-paypal-bitcoin

Bitcoin is such a bad payment method, even with Lightning network, because you need to buy a volatile asset and payment processors typically charge huge fees to receive BTC payments.

If Kagi supported USDC I would definitely use it.

Could you use a prepaid debit card or is that? And what other search engine do you use and what makes you think they don't know who you are?

I primarily use DuckDuckGo go. I use account containers. I use a VPN.

I’m not letting perfect be the enemy of good.

They don’t keep a record of your searches, so technically your searches aren’t connected to your card.

How subtle is the wink supposed to be in their or your statement?

I didn't mean it in an ironic way if that's what you're referring to. I interpreted your statement to say "I don't want my search history connected to my credit card.", sorry if I misunderstood what you said.

If what you mean is you don't believe they are not connected to your account, I can point you to the FAQ entry on their website.

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/faq/faq.html#what-data-does-kagi-...

Ah, right… Well, if it’s on their website!

Good idea indeed, though you could block some sites (on any search engine) with a browser script

It's not shared, but they have a list of most blocked etc. domains: https://kagi.com/stats

That is an interesting list; I'm not at all surprised to see pinterest holding the top ~10 spots, but things like facebook, instagram and twitter being so high does surprise me; perhaps it's indicative of the type of user they have (I too block those domains).

I could take that list, as-is and use it as a block list on my entire network.

I mean when you look at all the raised and pinned domains it's almost entirely programming related topics so "programmers dislike sites that have terrible browser experiences for unauth'd users" is like the least surprising thing.

That's a very good list. As a programmer I wish many of those sites, like geeks for geeks, would disappear forever.

That is a brutally small user base given how much I hear about them on HN.

It's a paid search engine, and not a cheap one. Not exactly mass market material ;) and I'd assume the percentage of HN users is rather high, hence a lot of comments from us, here.

@vlad I got 429’d here

Also a kagi user since they changed their pricing. The results have been decent for me for the most part, except for shopping which I still use google for. I do wish they’d step up their css game though. Maybe it’s just safari on iOS, but I get style problems constantly. The address bar doesn’t behave properly with the cursor if you type in a decently long query, and so often the search results will overflow the container horizontally. It’s a small price to pay for good search results, but stuff like that should be table stakes for a tool like this.

Can you open an issue on kagifeedback.org with details?

I get the reason why Google does not do domain level filtering due to antitrust concerns, but at least they should be able to adopt this kind of user preference approach. Why aren't they doing this years ago?

They were doing it years (more than a decade) ago, but the feature was eventually removed.

If it’s purely user generated and not something with any defaults, why would they be subject to antitrust concerns?

ublacklist does this for Google.

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