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Agile, as practiced in many large organizations with whom it is fading in popularity is practiced in the form of 'Scaled Agile Framework' - https://scaledagile.com/what-is-safe/

It takes all of the flexibility and tenants of agile development, and destroys them to make things 'ok' for people used to traditional waterfall planning methods, but keeps some of the 'ceremony' around agile so people feel like they're 'doing the thing'.

We call it waterfall with all the agile buzzwords - Waterfall because thats what mgmt understands and wants, and all the agile buzzwords so we can hire developers...

I think the problem is the same given "waterfall" or "agile." Waterfall, if you step back and think about it rationally is a perfectly valid approach. In fact, I see only slight differences between them...mostly cosmetic.

Cosmetic in what sense? Planning everything in advance, vs iterative, incremental delivery are pretty different ways to do things.

The vision has to be planned either way. Neither way requires you to plan all the infrastructure and write UML. Development is always iterative, in any mythological system or supposed anti-system.

No it's not, that's the whole point of agile.

If you only see slight differences between them, you haven't seen agile.

Scaled agility. Such a sultry phrase for the target audience.

tenets. sorry that one is just a peeve of mine.

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