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After working on it for several days, I can't really disagree with anything in here. Strictly speaking, it's not better or more productive than my large double 4k monitors.

But I am enjoying using it for work in a way I haven't heard reflected yet, that touches on some people's complaints about window management. Rather than surrounding myself with a "sphere of screens", I find it more pleasing to align windows with the walls of the room I'm actually in. Notes, todo lists, calendars, email, all open at the same time up against the walls of my physical room. I stand at my standing desk as usual, with my macbook display in front of me, and then I walk around to look at different things.

It may not be better but it's a different, pleasant experience.

Also, art is great on the VP. I put the album art of the currently playing music full size on one wall and it's actually given me a new appreciation for that.

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Hey, that's my setup, too!

Is there a way to manipulate the windows that I'm missing, or do you physically get up and attach the screens? I can't seem to find a way to adjust the... yaw?... without grabbing the window, walking, and turning.

And along those lines, that's also the only way I've found to have smaller windows far away. Otherwise pushing a window away also blows it up to an unreasonably large size, and I can't make it much smaller by grabbing the corner. In contrast, a window near you can be the size of a large iPad, which you can then get up and walk to the wall, with it maintaining its size.

Yeah, I haven't found a way around that. Hoping for "advanced window control" in a future version of visionOS. That and curved windows.

Although, it isn't a huge deal for me now. Walking around a physical space is part of the "new way of working" I'm exploring. Monitors beat the AVP if I'm going to be parked in a desk anyway, but the AVP unlocks a workflow in which I'm fully digital but also less tethered to a desk, which is interesting to me.

If Apple could find a reasonable solution for typing on a non-physical keyboard I'd be very happy. Not sure I want to resort to Keyboard Pants.

Heh, I hope they introduce typing on your lap or a desk for touch typers. It seems like it should be feasible with good hand tracking and maybe some AI. So not so much where you touch, but which fingers are doing what. If passwords can be deduced by desk vibrations, it should be possible...

I'd even be willing to put in the effort to learn a completely new set of finger gestures for typing, provided it was ergonomic and had equivalent speed to a keyboard after an initial learning curve.

Even something like an American Sign Language interpreter would be amazing... and could learn to speak to deaf people, to boot.

I don't think this would be possible. For instance, some signs involve touching the shoulder which would be difficult for the cameras to pick up.

Just a little note, you can totally write things on notes in the physical world and tape them around your room. It's even quite pleasant to write on paper or chalkboard and to cross items off as they are completed.

It's almost like you're surprised that virtual reality is imitating reality.

You can't sync your paper note to your phone, your partner's phone, etc.

I've seen a bunch of people baffled about why you would want to stick a note in VR space, as if it didn't also still integrate with iCloud as usual.

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