Comment by DandyDev | Hacker News Reader

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You manage to present a strawman and produce a No True Scotsman fallacy all at once in this comment thread.

Nobody is suggesting that Coq should be used, so stop bringing it up (strawman). And yes, Coq might have an even stricter and more expressive type system than Rust. But nobody is asking for a perfect type system (no true Scotsman). People are asking to be able to prevent users of your library to provide illegal values. Rust (and Haskell and Scala and Typescript and ….) lets you do this just fine whereas Golang doesn’t.

And personally I would much rather have the compiler or IDE tell me I’m doing something wrong than having to read the docs in detail to understand all the footguns.

My personal opinion is that - even though I’m very productive with Golang and I enjoy using it - Golang has a piss poor type system, even with the addition of Generics.

> People are asking to be able to prevent users of your library to provide illegal values. [...] and Typescript

Typescript, you say?

   const bar: Foo = {} as Foo

Hmm. Oh, right, just don't hold it wrong. But "sometimes it's nice to work with a type system where designers of libraries can actually prevent you from writing bugs."

Your example doesn’t even satisfy the base case, let alone the general case. Get back to us when you have actually read the thread and can provide something on topic.

But that is not an accident, is it? It’s someone very deliberately casting an object. It’s not the same and you probably know it.

It might be an accident. Someone uninitiated may think that is how you are expected to initialize the value. A tool like Copilot may introduce it and go unnoticed.

But let's assume the programmer knows what they are doing and there is no code coming from any other source. When would said programmer write code that isn't deliberate? What is it about Go that you think makes them, an otherwise competent programmer, flail around haphazardly without any careful deliberation?

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