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I'm a little surprised this framework hasn't gotten more mindshare. I've found it pretty easy to grok and work with.

Seems right now everyone is under Spring's "boot", if you'll pardon the pun.

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Micronaut has a share of the space too.

https://micronaut.io/

However, you’re right that Spring Boot has the lions share of the Java ecosystem.

I’ve also heard a number of folks getting into Vert.x.

Tho I’ve never used it and didn’t know how it compares.

Vert.x has always struggled with mind share. People try it but I have yet to hear of anyone sticking with it.

Years ago when I was investigating Spring and Java EE, I was taken aback by how much additional work was involved. Not only do some tutorials only show how to install through Java's dedicated IDE, but also deciding on which application server to use, which adds another layer of technical decisions and slows down the process of "quickly testing" frameworks.

Javelin breaks free of that. Excellent stuff!

If you were "deciding which application server to use", then that WAS "years ago" indeed! The paradigm shifted, from applications being deployed to a server such as Weblogic or Websphere, to applications bundling their own HTTP server like Node or Golang. This shift happened around 15 years ago. Modern Java development looks almost nothing like it did back in that era.

Do you have any good Modern Java web dev links you could drop?

@SpringBootApplication was all you needed on top of a main class. The biggest issue is somewhere along the Spring -> Pivotal -> VMWare -> Spring hot potato, their tutorials and documentation fell off a cliff. Everything became “just use initializer…”

It's either Spring, or Java EE's way (together with the new Jakarta EE paradigm, which is actually pretty cool if you ask me). I've seen the latter a lot more in the enterprise sphere.

Jakarta EE was purely a rebrand of Java EE, what do you mean new paradigm?

https://microprofile.io/

MP is distinctly not part of Jakarta EE; it's developed by separate independent group. This presentation attempts to clear up the confusion https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1wVaGJssQKPDSRcgRSE52...

Yes, its a mess.

>MicroProfile

>Optimizing Enterprise Java for a Microservices Architecture

Captain Kirk:

When the spaceship nears colossal planet Enterprise, two kinds of developers on board will be revealed:

- those who jetpack enthusiastically down to the planet (their Buzzwordite (TM) foam resumes will softpad their landing)

- and those who retrorocket desperately away, seeking lean, mean, computing machines

Spock:

Logical flaw - you forgot off-by-one errors.

What is cool about the new Jakarta EE paradigm?

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