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>> for some - most really - the real possibility of death and real consequences is what was necessary to pull out of it

This is not true at all for some significant part of this demographic.

And I feel compelled to mention that I am well-aware that this is totally counter-intuitive.

Consequences for my own inaction play an incredibly important motivational role for me. I don't get motivated by sunshine and rainbows, I personally get motivated by consequences.

So it's great that we can provide people 6 doses of narcan and act like they're big strong adults who are down on their luck, but it's incredibly harmful to pretend that this is the only possible solution to motivating behavior.

> Not letting your kid touch the hot stove at all is as bad as letting them pull a pot of boiling water down on their head.

While kids are over-protected these days, I strongly disagree with this.

What alternative view do you propose concretely?

Over protective is the definition of ‘they never get a chance to get a non-serious burn’ isn’t it?

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