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These are not truth machines. What do you want from them? Copilot is making up Putin quotes from Putin press conferences that never happened. There can be no expectation of fact from these impenetrable black boxes. They're stochastic parrots and little more. Expecting them to be truth tellers is the silliest thing I've ever heard from otherwise reasonably smart SV people. WTF, folks?!

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I think you are seeing just how desperately many people want a "truth machine". Sure, LLM's are terrible for the purpose, but if you have nothing else, you cling to it with all your force. Instead of mocking them, pity them like the baby monkey clinging to its wire frame mother: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Harlow

> What do you want from them?

For starters, most local models I've seen don't stuff prompts with DEI requirements, and actually do a reasonable job of following instructions

and most local modes don't have trillion dollar companies worried about getting sued. are you all dense or trolling here?

I am doing neither, and I'm not buying what you're selling.

Meta's local models contain alignment and censoring, yet it is nowhere near the scale of Gemini's bias. I hopefully don't need to remind you that a large number of local models are based on llama.

Mistral has raised over $300 million. I'd say that warrants being worried about getting sued, yet you don't see people memeing about their model's alignment.

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