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> Are you quite certain of this?

Yes, in this specific case you are misinformed.

“Monterey County District Attorney Jeannine M. Pacioni announced today that David Merino Ramirez, age 32, was sentenced today to 15 years to life in state prison after a jury in February convicted him of Murder and Vehicular Manslaughter. Judge Rafael Vasquez imposed the sentence.

On August 21, 2020, around 9:00 p.m., Ramirez was driving northbound at speeds exceeding 80mph on Metz Road between the cities of Greenfield and Soledad. Due to his excessive speed and level of intoxication Ramirez lost control, striking a dirt embankment and flipping his car upside down. His passenger, Noe Santillan, 26, was pronounced dead at the scene of the crash by first responders.”

04/11/2024 https://www.countyofmonterey.gov/Home/Components/News/News/1...

Edit: Newspaper article https://salinasvalleytribune.com/jury-convicts-soledad-man-o...

Different cases:

April 12, 2024 https://www.foxla.com/news/pandolfi-yesenia-aguilar-dui-driv...

March 31 2024 https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/crime/2024/03/31/el-p...

February 1 2024 https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/crime/article284973...

Nationwide it’s quite common.

I don't know if this is a joke or not. You lead with "you are misinformed", and then follow up with

>after a jury in February convicted him of Murder and Vehicular Manslaughter.

In other words, manslaughter not murder. You're using the two terms interchangeably, and they're simply not such, not in any legal discussion. I also like how you get your citations all nice and pretty, got good grades for that in school, I'm guessing... but can't get the substance of your argument right (and couldn't read mine with comprehension, apparently).

Do you understand that "murder" and "manslaughter" are two different classes of crimes, and that the latter, manslaughter is pretty much always the lesser class of crime? Murder generally requires things like intent to kill, premeditation, even "depraved indifference" or callousness. No drunk driver is ever charged with murder, and if they were, it's doubtful that a judge wouldn't pimpsmack it back out of court immediately. I don't know how this can be explained more simply. Jailhouse crooks often get this, and most of them are borderline retarded.

AND means he was convicted of BOTH which is why he’s in for 15 to life. The quote was from the government website for the area he ways convicted not some misinformed 3rd party.

https://www.keglawyers.com/vehicular-manslaughter-penal-code...

PC 192(c) vehicular manslaughter filing, the punishment if convicted can include:

two, four, or six years in the California state prison and that’s it it caps at 6 years not 15 to life.

If you don’t believe them here’s the actual statute: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio....

Reddit is leaking again.

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