Here's the other side:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40301508
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40336005
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40330694
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40308241
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40299313
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40298608
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40279661
https://twitter.com/jack/status/1787895769183268948