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It's an approximation, not an estimation.

Actually, my understanding is that it is an estimation because in the given context we don't know or cannot compute the true answer due to some kind of constraint (here memory or the size of |X|). An approximation is when we use a simplified or rounded version of an exact number that we actually know.

Wikipedia is on your side:

"In mathematics, approximation describes the process of finding estimates in the form of upper or lower bounds for a quantity that cannot readily be evaluated precisely"

This process doesn't use upper and lower bounds.

However, it still seems more like approximation than estimation to me because of this:

“Of course,” Variyam said, “if the [memory] is so big that it fits all the words, then we can get 100% accuracy.

It seems that in estimation the answer should be unknowable without additional information, whereas in this case it's just a matter of resolution or granularity because of the memory size.

Anyhoo ...

EDIT: also the paper says "estimate" and the article says both "approximate" and "estimate" at different times so it seems everyone except me thinks it's either an estimation or that estimation and approximation are interchangeable.

Still very different things, no?

It's the same thing at different degrees of accuracy. The goal is the same.

Still, counting things and counting unique things are two different procedures.

For someone who's pretty well-versed in English, but not a math-oriented computer scientist, this seems like a distinction without a difference. Please remedy my ignorance.

My GP was wrong, but the words are different.

Eatimation is a procedure the generates an estimate, which is a kind of approximation, while approximation is a result value. They are different "types", as a computer scientist would say. An approximation is any value that is justifiably considered to be nearly exact. ("prox" means "near". See also "proximate" and "proxy".)

Estimation is one way to generate an approximation. An estimate is a subtype of an approximation. There are non-estimation ways to generate an approximation. For example, take an exact value and round it to the nearest multiple of 100. That generates an approximation, but does not use estimation.

I’m not sure the linguistic differences here are as cut and dried as you would like them to be. Estimate and approximate are both verbs, so you can derive nouns from them both for the process of doing the thing, and for the thing that results from such a process.

Estimation is the process of estimating. It produces an estimate.

Approximation is the process of approximating. It produces an approximation.

You can also derive adjectives from the verbs as well.

An estimate is an estimated value.

An approximation is an approximate value.

But you’re right that the ‘approximate’ terms make claims about the result - that it is in some way near to the correct value - while the ‘estimate’ derived terms all make a claim about the process that produced the result (ie that it was based on data that is known to be incomplete, uncertain, or approximate)

The authors of the article disagree with you.

The authors of the paper disagree with me, the authors of the article don't (they use both approximate and estimate, but the paper does say estimate).

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