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I see 'anti-vaccine superspreaders' being one of the main topics of discussion. How about the misinformation about the vaccine stopping the spread? This was pushed by prominent politicians and actors and was completely false. with no science to back it up.

MRNA-based vaccines have had lots of injuries (some were taken off the market for causing blood clots, which was also lumped into 'misinformation campaigns' for a long time).

It's impact has been hidden and many people have lost their jobs by even questioning it. If this weren't the case, misinformation against these kinds of vaccines wouldn't have flourished. Not to mention the fact that you can't even sue the vaccine companies for any harm it causes you.

The vaccines didn't do much to help stop the spread. Herd immunity did.

> some [MRNA vaccines] were taken off the market

Which vaccines were these, and where? There are only four mRNA vaccines which have been authorised for use anywhere, per Wikipedia; of these, two were only ever authorised in one country (both took long enough to be approved that there was little interest in pursuing them vs the Pfizer-Biontech and Moderna ones by the time they were available). Neither of the big two have been taken off the market in any major market?

Is it possible you're getting confused and thinking of adenovirus vaccines (the main ones used in the west were Oxford-Astrazeneca and Janssen)? Some countries withdrew these for certain age groups on the belief that they were less safe than the mRNA vaccines, and most countries have now stopped using them on the basis that they're less effective than the mRNA vaccines (though one or the other is usually retained for use where people are allergic to shared ingredients of the mRNA vaccines).

Herd immunity has only ever been achieved with vaccines. It has not been achieved with Covid, with hundreds of people still dying from Covid each day.

> The vaccines didn't do much to help stop the spread. Herd immunity did.

How would you say vaccines work?

> MRNA-based vaccines have had lots of injuries (some were taken off the market for causing blood clots

Which ones?

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