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Comment by Aerbil313 | Hacker News Reader

Alcohol is absolutely not required. It's the Western culture. I live in a country/social circle where nobody drinks and it's plain out funny seeing Westerners thinking alcohol is some absolute necessity of life.

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The interesting thing about Islamic culture is that for all their sobriety, those societies are still prone to outbursts of political/religious rage. No external intoxicant needed.

I wonder why. Doubtful that it's the absence of alcohol causing such rage though, even if their rates of outbursts are higher than others.

There's no evidence showing Islamic societies have more outbursts than others. The two parent comments seem to be talking about some imagined reality. Meanwhile, while being only partially related to rage and outbursts,

> Alcohol is involved in more homicides across the United States compared to other substances, like heroin and cocaine. In fact, about 40% of convicted murderers had used alcohol before or during the crime.

listed among other crimes such as robbery, sexual assault, aggravated assault, intimate partner violence and child abuse[1].

1: https://www.alcoholrehabguide.org/alcohol/crimes/

Thanks for confirming my suspicions. I hate all religion, though for real harms and not imagined ones.

I don't appreciate the hate. It's generally frowned upon in the HN community too.

Islam is the exception not the rule in human cultures. Every human tribe which has figured out fermentation has used it extensively.

And in many Muslim countries, drinking is a big part of the culture notwithstanding the religious dicta (or even legal penalties). Iran loves its wine. Indonesia loves its arak.

It's a lot of cultures, not just Western culture.

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