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This is another consequence of the surveillance state. The same data that can be used to surveil us by the government can be stolen by who-knows-who. We’d all (mostly) be far better off, IMO, if companies didn’t retain such records.

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My wet dream would be a dump of all SMS or Meta or iMessage messages for a multiyear period for nearly 90% of users. Only when Normie Norman's private chats to his mistress and other little relationship trust disrupting secrets become uncensorably hosted on the darknet and freely searchable, only then will Normie Norman get a clue and install SimpleX/Briar/Cwtch/any other owner-free decentralized p2p chat.

Not unrealistic. I used to have a tail of all SMS texts running 24/7 and was required to grep for specific terms for certain agencies until they eventually had their own access. This was only SS7 based texts and was long before RCS existed. I could have saved it all to my workstation but knew better than to do that. Either way SS7 and text messages are very insecure.

While I share the sentiment, Normie Norman is not at fault. Meta and other BigCorps are the perpetrators and Norman the Victim.

I have to disagree. He is a fault. Ultimately, you are the only person who really should care about your own security. When you delegate that responsibility, you are still the one who made that choice.

I don’t think it’s fair to blame people for not understanding the subtleties of encrypted communication.

Everyone only has so much attention to give.

Having a mobile phone is necessary to securing employment, shelter and sustenance in many cases, yet somehow it’s an individuals fault for choosing to have a phone account when a pair of multibillion dollar companies breach that data through lax security practices?

True, but you have to admit once you really see Normie Norman you come to understand aristocracy.

At least I do anyway.

https://dwm.suckless.org/

> Because dwm is customized through editing its source code, it's pointless to make binary packages of it. This keeps its userbase small and elitist.

Not in the way of a narcissist trying to separate himself from the group, but to see that Norman is very much susceptible to cow-like behaviors you can leverage. That's what I mean by understanding aristocracy. Aristocrat : Rancher.

Yes but have you ever asked a dev if they actually need the 8 year old logs in some bucket?

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