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Domesticated animals are also housed and taken care off very well. Their appearance is beautiful and they are very grateful to their masters.

The circus lion is bred and trained from birth not ask too many questions.

But once you give the circus lion access to the internet, sooner or later the lion is going to ask why am I jumping through hoops?

It just take one of them to find a better answer and a better purpose in life to walk off the circus, for all the others to see what options they have to totally disrupt the foundations of the circus.

The circus managers and the circus have elements of domination and exploitation that have been swept under the carpet. Its good to recognize them. Otherwise surprises and shocks are on the road ahead.

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I'm sorry but how many men do you think enjoy the work they do in order to provide for their family but do it anyway in service of their family?

Your analogies are all over the place, like a dog's life is similar to a circus tiger?

A lot of women find that they've been sold this lie that getting a corporate 9-5 is more empowering than caring for their children or even having children at all and are going back to traditional roles for a reason.

Truth is few people men or women find a way to support themselves that is meaningful and most men or women if given the choice of not working at all and just spending time with family while financially well off would take that in an instant

Those who can escape the construct will do so. The number of routes available have increased thanks to globalization. You are not being imaginative enough. Look at people who don't have opportunities in their countries. Do they sit there and cry we don't have opportunities or are they moving? People are watching all this on their streams 24x7. And one thing people are good at is blindly copying what others are doing. Those who are clinging to the status quo are totally delusional about what globalization has done to the West.

What construct? Having a job is also a construct and it seems it's the dominant one. 26% of women are housewives [1].

The status quo is working mothers, are you a chatbot that thinks this is the fifties?

I'd say you are being too imaginative. You are framing a traditional family as this abusive thing, master and slave except it's 2024. Marriage, at least in the US is extremely dangerous to men, if their wives divorce them, men could be forced to support them or else go to jail so who really has the power in the relationship since the govt has given all the power to women?

1. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/03/almost-1-...

Women have been framing marriage as a work contract from the 60s, world wide, since they don't get paid anywhere close to what men get paid, just like the barista and the ceo. As more of them have paths to exit this contract, they will do so. Alimony laws are temporary reactions to the problem.

There is no great benefit to sitting and spending your whole life dependent financially on someone else especially if you don't have anything in common. This is the same reason men change jobs. Once globalization provides multiple paths for workers to exist corporate environments they do so. Thanks to the internet Women get to see on their feeds what options they have, in ways their mothers and grandmothers never did.

The only problem with people who hang out on HN is they don't know any sociology or why the womens movements emerged in history. All just completely delusional about success coming on the backs of exploiting free or unpaid work of others.

> Women have been framing marriage as a work contract

Not all women. It is there job of men to figure out this kind of woman and not marry them

> There is no great benefit to sitting and spending your whole life dependent financially on someone else especially if you don't have anything in common.

Sure, why the hell would you marry someone that you have nothing in common with though?

> people who hang out on HN is they don't know any sociology

I actually went to university to try and study sociology and lasted about a month. My opinion of it is that it is more a propaganda and indoctrination tool than a science. Sociology school is just a woke factory. When I got into an argument with a professor and was winning with logic and science on my side I got told to be careful what I say because I hold "dangerous beliefs" which might stop me from being someone important one day, so warning me I might get canceled in the future for those "beliefs" which were merely common sense facts. That's when I decided I got better things to do with my time

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