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Comment by stephenitis | Hacker News Reader

I live on a 4 way corner of a small small neighborhood roundabout that teenagers like to speed around. One teen drunkenly crashed into our parked car overnight.

Not so safe. :(

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But a four-way intersection is the exact opposite of a cul-de-sac, even in a small neighborhood. The only people that will ever drive to the end of a cul-de-sac are the owners or visitors of the three or four houses that are at the cul-de-sac.

>The only people that . . .

You underestimate the perverseness of teenagers in loud cars.

Yea, I almost spit out my beer reading that. We have people who deliberately race down our suburban road to the cul-de-sac, slam on the brakes to make as much noise as they can, do a few burnouts there, and then race back, for no reason other than to be belligerent and antisocial. Not teenagers, either. Grown-ass men do this for the lulz.

I feel like that would end very badly indeed for someone in my neighborhood. Everyone looks out of everyone while minding our business at the same time.

Plus we have a huge amount of local cops in the area at all times to the point I have to warn uber drivers that if they speed they are going to get pulled over, guaranteed.

Also Delivery drivers, lost drivers, maintenance workers, mail man, etc

Well, they don't exist in my neighborhood, on the cul de sac that I live on. I suspect most neighborhoods don't have teenagers terrorizing random culdesacs at any appreciable level.

Very difficult to create a safe env if teens can freely drink and speed around.

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