Your response makes me wonder ... In the interview Kary Mullis mentions that no scientist ever has been able to proof that HIV causes Aids. He also mentions that test monkeys have been injected with HIV and these monkeys didn't develop Aids. Actually, these monkeys got rid of the HIV after some time.

I guess many years have passed since this interview (from 1996).

My question to you: is there a scientist now that has been able to proof that HIV is the cause of Aids? Because he also mentions a scientist who'd do such a discovery would be famous, maybe Nobel prize winner, etcetera.

P.S.: From the interview it doesn't seem Kary Mullis denies Aids. Kary mentions Aids is likely caused by anal sex in some way.