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Comment by kklisura | Hacker News Reader

Where is Apple in all of this?

Apple historically dislikes NVIDIA and I they would likely rather use their own in-house chip team. They also rely on it by virtue of using OpenAI in upcoming iOS release.

They don't like the high margins? :P

TBF Apple dislikes any other company they work with. They're seething with rage any time they cannot do something in-house.

I wonder if the split happened with jobs or after jobs? I thought jobs was good at relationships with everyone else in silicon valley (intel, ati, nvidia, even microsoft)

Apple dropped Nvidia after a few years of Nvidia falsifying thermal specifications on GPU chips.

It drove apple crazy both with high failure rate of MacBooks where the GPU was desoldering itself and general problem of a hot as fuck bottom. Nvidia refused to pay out for damages to Apple as well from what I recall.

To add to that, NVIDIA tried throwing OEMs under the bus when the issues cropped up. It wasn’t just Apple who were affected.

Then a few years later they made up but NVIDIA didn’t want to partner on drivers, so they had another rift

IIRC it was with Jobs. Apple wanted to develop their own drivers for their chips from ground up, and NVIDIA was very secretive of their tech, so things went south.

> NVIDIA was very secretive of their tech

Oh the irony for Apple to dislike others being secretive...

On their own right, they contribute more than many other companies, though. Their kernel is open source, they have given their secret sauces like Grand Central Dispatch away, allowed complex technologies like mDNS (Bonjour), AirPrint, multipath networking to be implemented freely and used widely in a vendor agnostic manner.

macOS is 1000 times better for talking UNIX systems than Windows and is POSIX compliant.

Lastly, they are not hindering the development of Asahi Linux, and did nothing when their devices were reverse engineered. On the contrary, they left a couple of ways open for Asahi guys to boot their distribution directly.

They are not the band of saints, but they are not the underhanded evils like a couple of others.

They're shipping queries off to ChatGPT so I guess this ends up as nVidia cards on Azure?

Apple hates Nvidia so wouldn't buy directly from nvidia.

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