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Would you like a list of the hours needed to deshittify Windows (and free disk space)? Preventing macos telemetry is another time sink.

There’s no free lunch.

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I've never had to deshittify Windows, everything just works. But every time install Linux, I have to spend hours searching for little configuration problems. Like why Ctrl+C doesn't work in the terminal. Why doesn't Shift+arrow select text? Yes, there are solutions for these problems, but you have either install some crap or copy-paste stuff into config files.

> Like why Ctrl+C doesn't work in the terminal.

Bad example, this is the same as asking why doesn't sudo work in windows.

Sudo is a thing now in Windows [1]

[1] https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/introducing-sudo-...

sudo literally works in Windows.

Both in Windows itself as well as in WSL.

Ctrl+C also doesn't "work" (assuming you mean "copy text"?) in Windows command prompt last I checked. (Ctrl+Insert I believe performs copy.)

This post is evidence against. There’s hundreds more. Ctrl+C has always worked on Linux—but there are real issues, which makes me think you’re not being honest.

>Ctrl-C

Ctrl-C it's a signal. Now, try creating these folders under Windows:

- NUL

- AUX

- PRN

- COM

Good luck.

I don't care about creating such folders.

But I care about Ctrl+C working.

Your obscure requirements are meaningless.

I'm happy to report Ctrl+C doesn't work in cmd either.

Also if Windows is perfect out of the box then just use Windows. For me, I'd always have to spend hours configuring Windows to not be shitty and to adapt to my workflow. At that point I'm better off just running Debian.

I don't think it's that bad, the duration is certainly not enumerated in hours, at least on Windows. It depends on how high a standard you have, but since other people were long aware of the issue, third-party scripts and software to automate a lot of the tedium exist and work pretty well, anything else can be smoothed out by hand.

Freeing up the disk space in a VM is definitely an hours long struggle the first time, must count research time into it as well. I did it last year. Don’t forget the privacy tweaks and research. Sure you could script most of it, like anywhere.

so you don't trust ms but you trust a script from some guy in his mom's basement in Russia?

Any such tools that are worth their salt have their code posted publicly, you can check it yourself. Most of it isn't some groundbreaking stuff, a lot can be stripped out by just changing registry values and other deeply-ingrained settings that would take a long time to find and edit by hand. I also don't see how "trust into Microsoft" factors in here - it's not about trust, we know there's telemetry that can't be disabled through standard settings, and I know there are features I'd like to uproot entirely (like deep OneDrive integration).

Yeah I can't deal with rug pulls every version. I use xmonad on linux, with no rug for anybody to pull on me.

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