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True, it wasn’t all that long ago there was a coordinated campaign from the Republicans to paint Democratic leadership as colluding with Russia. Including a fabricated dossier, and the intelligence community unanimously and falsely declaring that Trump’s son’s laptop was a Russian misinformation plot and using that declaration to have tech giants and the media censor the story.

No wait, I think I have that backwards…

Correct, they tried to make this a narrative happen through the Durham investigation and it failed miserably. Turns out the incoming and former president is deeply intertwined with Russian interests, a throughline of his presidency including his first impeachment

And you know this for certain, because the architects of the fabricated dossier and those who were willing to explicitly lie about Hunters laptop told you as much.

I assume it’s also Russian misinfo that a Ukrainian energy firm gave Hunter a board appointment and a million dollars a year, which he spent on crack and hookers and prolifically recorded himself doing both. It must be pure coincidence that the pardon Joe issued for him goes back 10 years to cover that period, in addition to the more recent tax fraud and firearms offences. Pure propaganda! I know it is because the bad orange man’s opponents say it is.

That's incredibly misleading

Trump literally colluded with Russia, an authoritarian opponent of the US to undermine our elections. Plenty of honest conservatives were against him precisely because of that

It wasn't Trump that spend the last 4 years calling everyone who disagreed with him a Russian Troll.

It was Trump, however, that tried to perform an autogolpe so the comparison fits

That's nice. But it has nothing to do with what OP said.

I interpreted it as being Trumpian to perform a coup in an otherwise stable democracy. But YMMV on interpretation

>He's declaring his liberal opposition are sympathizers with North Korea. It sounds very Trump-ian, to be honest.

Where in that single sentence did you find a reference to a coup?

autogolpe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-coup > A self-coup, also called an autocoup (from Spanish autogolpe) or coup from the top, is a form of coup d'état in which a political leader, having come to power through legal means, stays in power through illegal means through the actions of themselves and/or their supporters.[1] The leader may dissolve or render powerless the national legislature and unlawfully assume extraordinary powers. Other measures may include annulling the nation's constitution, suspending civil courts, and having the head of government assume dictatorial powers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_South_Korean_martial_law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capito...

In the fact that they are commenting on the effective declaration of a self-coup

Is there a specific Trump policy you're referring to? It sounds like the reverse to me.

The dems falsely painted him as alternately sympathising with / controlled by Russia. I may have missed it but haven't seen him do likewise.

Falsely?

Yes

See the following:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capi...

That doesn't answer the actual question of relationship between Trump and Russia.

Oh that's valid, the actual answer is that it's a continued pattern of behavior since 2015.

No I didn't see him officially declare martial law and suspend peoples' rights.

From my perspective (outside the US) you could see him urging people not to storm the capitol.

Not a policy, but Trump referring to Democrats as "the enemy within" and "so evil" seems pretty comparable. Is it a policy? Well, no, Trump's rhetoric isn't typically policy heavy. But he certainly has expressed interest in using US troops on American soil against protestors, and using the justice system to go after his political enemies. But he talks about a lot of stuff.

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