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What on earth do you mean by: "One of the richest people on the planet"?

National have started an "austerity" programme, tens of thousands of civil servants have been laid off, housing is disgustingly expensive (and the quality of it is awful as well), the price of goods and food is pretty expensive (even dairy products that are produced here are often more expensive than in Europe).

The location's only great strategically if you ignore the (huge) future earthquake potential.

Cities like Wellington have also had a chronic lack of infrastructure investment, so there are HUGE issues with water / sewage leaks - pretty much every week there's a new water main leaking somewhere in the city.

(Have lived here for 10 years, and am looking to return to Europe - things are going downhill pretty fast here IMO).

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You should travel a bit around the world, you would then understand how high NZ stands globally, I have trouble having sympathies with rich folks complaining that they can't buy central houses in main capital city right out of pocket from first 2 years salary. Same situation all over the world.

But that's the issue - people want paradise and absolute success on all fronts of existence, now, I mean right fucking now or they are losers. Its immature approach to life that will bring you tons of unhappiness and 0 of opposite, and it definitely won't help you move forward.

Or - good luck with return to Europe. What you write is valid here too if you haven't noticed. Maybe not sewage but some other problem XYZ which is completely absent or non-issue in NZ.

Be prepared half of folks will be either very welcoming of russian attack on Europe, subtle support of far far right all the way to xenophobia and racism. EU green deal is killing European (not only) automotive industry right now and they just double down on rules, who cares how many coal plants China or India fire up. That's up to 15 million jobs going slowly (or fast) away. That's economical future being taken away from financial core of EU by at best some idealistic bureaucrats. Tens of millions of immigrants and refugees, you see them everywhere, mostly without work, barely surviving. What's the plan for them? Nothing that makes long term sense.

EU is in decline and things are not that great for most folks. We don't have the illusion of 'American dream' to keep poor people in line and chasing some illusion of potential to massive success. And that decline ain't gonna magically stop just because it will be annoying.

Your reply is rife with logical fallacies that has little to nothing to do with anything originally raised.

> People want paradise and absolute success on all fronts of existence, now, I mean right fucking now or they are losers.

Complete straw man argument.

> I have trouble having sympathies with rich folks complaining that they can’t buy central houses in main capital city right out of pocket from first 2 years salary

Ad hominem. Try engaging with the actual point rather than resorting to thinly veiled personal attacks.

> Same situation all over the world

False equivalence.

> Be prepared half of folks will be either very welcoming of Russian attack on Europe

> EU green deal is killing European (not only) automotive industry right now

This bizzare tangent has absolutely nothing to do with addressing or refuting any of the specific points made about NZ's economy, infrastructure or cost of living.

> You should travel a bit around the world, you would then understand how high NZ stands globally

First of all, they have. They are an immigrant. Not to mention its an appeal to relative privation. You can't just dismiss legitimate criticisms by claiming they are not valid because worse problems exist elsewhere.

> Be prepared half of folks will be either very welcoming of Russian attack on Europe… Tens of millions of immigrants and refugees, you see them everywhere

Appeal to emotion.

> People want paradise and absolute success… it’s an immature approach

You're projecting.

> You should travel a bit around the world, you would then understand how high NZ stands globally

They come from Europe to NZ - that is literally travelling the world.

There's a reason a large proportion of kiwis move to Australia and not the other way around.

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