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From O1:

  Summary of Confirmable vs. Speculative
 • Confirmed by reputable sources:
 1. Dates of the events (Las Vegas shooting: October 1–2, 2017; Khashoggi’s murder: October 2, 2018).
 2. Alwaleed bin Talal was a major investor in the Four Seasons (including the top floors at Mandalay Bay).
 3. Saudi authorities arrested Alwaleed bin Talal and other elites in November 2017 in a sweeping “anti-corruption” operation.
 4. Alwaleed bin Talal eventually lost significant wealth or leverage as a result of that crackdown, though precise figures remain undisclosed.
 • Not confirmed / purely speculative:
 1. MBS staying in the Four Seasons above the Las Vegas shooter.
 2. The Las Vegas shooting as a deliberate “distraction” from an assassination attempt.
 3. Khashoggi being part of such a plot, or his execution date tying symbolically to the shooting.

Re speculations unconfirmed by reputable sources: a good place to start would be rumble. There’s much more to this interpretation of events, and I’m not wed to it by any means, but it has the virtue of explaining countless strange or unexplained aspects of the shooting.

okay so there is no source about any of this except that they are a year apart and that the Saudi royal family invests in vegas hotels

So the sources are OpenAI training data and a far-right social media platform. It seems prudent to disregard this conspiracy theory as misinformation.

In fairness, how would you know anything is true and not delusion when you discard everything that doesn't align with your world view as misinformation? If you followed the same process with just about any piece of news today (from mainstream journalism), it would be classified as misinformation.

Prudence dictates that if there are at least three points of intersection that further investigation is needed but more likely than not there is something there, which may not necessarily be what you are looking for.

Coincidences (two points of intersection) rarely occur, but the likelihood of three in a short time horizon is fairly astronomical, now it is statistical which is why further investigation is needed (since there is a certain level of due dilligence for proof). All the same classifying this as misinformation like you did is without proper rational basis.

You may not have noticed this, but you don't resolve your indirections, which more often than not leads to fallacy and false conclusion.

Coming from someone posting with an anti-NATO sentiment, your motivations are pretty obvious. Of course, your duty mandates a lack of personal thought - all you get is the official playbook.

Also, you are likely to be an automaton.

cluckindan, I say this with earnest and sincere positive regard...

Please get some professional help from a place based in external reality. You are clearly deluded and are hallucinating.

I didn't mention anything related to NATO, nothing even remotely close, not here, not in this post, and not anywhere else. You hallucinated this.

I pointed out a contradiction with your criteria for defining misinformation. You also weren't resolving ambiguous indirections, this is fallacy that becomes circular. I pointed it out because when you embrace delusion and the associated blindness, and abandon critical thinking skills, method, and structure, you will expectedly enter a spiral of madness of your own making, suffering along the way.

In some parts of the world today, the insane are culled rather than be a burden on the living draining limited resources. There is no cure for people whose mind unravels, you either manage to recover on your own or you lose it entirely.

I hope you manage to pull yourself together, sincerely I do.

Nice try, russobot. I have seen your post history.

And as far as mental illness goes, you might be projecting there. Sane people seldom post as much and as verbosely as you do.

But then again, you are probably some guy in an office decorated with Russian flags, wielding an AI fine-tuned to screw with English-speaking technologists.

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