perhaps you stumbled on a rarer case but reading the logs you posted this sounds more like a 4o model than an o1 because it’s doing its thinking in the chat itself plus the procedure you described would probably get you 4o-mini
This is coming off my TWO DAY cooldown on o1 usage, which is frustrating.
Could you try playing with the exact numbers and/or substances?
>> A liter of bricks and a liter of feathers both weigh the same—1 kilogram—since they each have a volume of 1 liter. However, bricks are much denser than feathers, so the bricks will take up much less space compared to the large volume of feathers needed to make up 1 liter. The difference is in how compactly the materials are packed, but in terms of weight, they are identical.
> give me a query and i’ll ask it
Here's a query similar to one that I gave to Google Gemini (version unknown), which failed miserably:
---query---
Steeleye Span's version of the old broadsheet ballad "The Victory" begins the final verse with these lines:
Here's success unto the Victory / and crew of noble fame
and glory to the captain / bold Nelson was his name
What does the singer mean by these lines?
---end query---
Italicization is for the benefit of HN; I left that out of my prompt.
These lines celebrate the victory of the British ship HMS Victory, led by the famous Admiral Lord Nelson, in the Battle of Trafalgar in 1805.
"Here's success unto the Victory": This line directly praises the ship itself, acknowledging its role in the successful battle. "and crew of noble fame": This recognizes the bravery and skill of the sailors who served aboard the Victory. "and glory to the captain": This line specifically honors Admiral Nelson, the captain of the Victory, for his leadership and strategic brilliance in the battle. "bold Nelson was his name": This emphasizes Nelson's courage and daring, which were legendary. The lines express admiration for the ship, its crew, and most importantly, Admiral Nelson, who became a national hero in Britain for his victory at Trafalgar.
What do you think the singer in "Friends in Low Places" meant in the toast he gave after crashing his ex-girlfriend's wedding?
And I saw the surprise and the fear in his eyes
when I took his glass of champagne
and I toasted you, said "Honey, we may be through
but you'll never hear me complain"
But I think specifying that the singer has crashed his ex-girlfriend's wedding is already enough that you deserve to fail if your answer is "he says he's not upset, so what he means is that he's not upset". It's not any kind of leap to guess that the bride's ex-boyfriend's toast might cause a scene at a wedding - that's why the bride's ex-boyfriends are never invited.
(The question has already provided every word of the toast that appears in the song.)
See also the sidethread comment by mikeruiz, noting that o1-pro reproduces the rest of the lyrics to The Victory, but gets the question wrong anyway.
Sentience isn't really a related concept.
…but to your point, no idea if the artist intended some more obscure reference.
o1-pro was also able to produce a relatively complete version of original source, though, amusingly, referred to it as a ‘broadside’ rather than ‘broadsheet’. Appropriate given the context!
No, but the answer is obviously wrong. Very, very wrong. The lines are not praise. The song's view of the Victory, and of the battle of Trafalgar, is overwhelmingly negative.
> o1-pro was also able to produce a relatively complete version of original source
...as should be clear, if you read the original source. (Or, heck, just the two lines following the ones in the question.) Being able to reproduce the source makes the error look that much worse.
> though, amusingly, referred to it as a ‘broadside’ rather than ‘broadsheet’.
Both terms are used. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadside_ballad :
>> A broadside (also known as a broadsheet) is a single sheet of inexpensive paper printed on one side, often with a ballad, rhyme, news and sometimes with woodcut illustrations.
of course, it is a sardonic, implicit critique of Admiral Nelson/the victory, etc. but i do think it is a bit subtle.
Which is heavier: an 11kg bag of lint or a 20lb bag of gold?
https://chatgpt.com/share/67757720-3c7c-8010-a3e9-ce66fb9f17...
e: cool, this gets downvoted
> While the lint bag is heavier in terms of weight, it's worth mentioning that gold is significantly more valuable per pound compared to lint. This means that even though the lint bag weighs more, the gold bag holds much greater monetary value.