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Comment by MrBuddyCasino | Hacker News Reader

The fundamental issues is that devops guys don't have a budget with which to buy tools like Dagger (or Earthly), so the market is limited to companies that have tech-literate management - very small.

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It's somewhat this, a lot the fact that a huge, unbelievable chunk of "devops" guys are former sysadmins pigeonholed into devops because every organization thought that was a natural progression, so the odds of finding a devops engineer that is very good at writing go or javascript is kind of a unicorn, at least in my experience (I have to hire sometimes). They're usually fairly proficient with scripting languages, but sometimes not even that. Since terraform/HCL/YAML are more configuration languages with a lot less "logic" in them, it's more comfortable for a lot of people with that background, especially when they're already used to tools like ansible/helm/etc.

uh-huh: https://github.com/earthly/earthly/blob/v0.8.15/LICENSE (MPLv2, just like TF used to be) https://github.com/dagger/dagger/blob/v0.15.2/LICENSE (Apache 2)

Ha you got me there. Well in that case: cursed be the devops guys and their devilish inertia & groupthink.

IIRC they went fully open source because they couldn't make it as a for profit company.

Selling dev tools is ferociously hard, as partially evidenced by this thread talking about how changing anyone's development flow/tooling/process is also ferociously hard

I would guess dev tooling usually also falls into the "nice to have," or as my former CEO used to say "vitamins vs painkillers"

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