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My prediction is a Apple loses to Open AI who releases a H.E.R. (like the movie) like phone. She is seen on your lock screen a la a Facetime call UI/UX and she can be skinned to look like whoever; i.e. a deceased loved one.

She interfaces with AI Agents of companies, organizations, friends, family, etc to get things done for you (or to learn from..what's my friends bday his agent tells yours) automagically and she is like a friend. Always there for you at your beckon call like in the movie H.E.R.

Zuckerberg's glasses that can not take selfies will only be complimentary to our AI phones.

That's just my guess and desire as fervent GPT user, as well a Meta Ray Ban wearer (can't take selfies with glasses).

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My take on this is that, despite an ever-increasingly connected world, you still need an assistant like this to remain available at all times your device is. If I can’t rely on it when my signal is weak, or the network/service is down/saturated, its way of working itself into people’s core routines is minimal. So either the model runs locally, in which case I’d argue OpenAI have no moat, or they uncover some secret sauce they’re able to keep contained to their research labs and data centres that’s simply that much better than the rest, in perpetuity, and is so good people are willing to undergo the massive switching costs and tolerate the situations in which the service they’ve come to be so dependent on isn’t available to them. Let’s also not discount the fact that Apple are one of the largest manufacturers globally of smartphones, and that getting up to speed in the myriad industries required to compete with them, even when contracting out much of that work, is hard.

Sure but Microsof has the expertise and they own 49 percent of Open AI if I'm not mistaken. Open AI uses their expertise and access to hardware to create a GPT branded AI phone.

I can see your point re: run locally but no reason Open AI can't release version 0.1 and how many times are u left without an internet connection on ur current phone?

Overall I hate Apple now it's so stale compared to GPT's iPhone app. I nerd rage at dumbass Siri.

I still fail to see who desire that, how it benefits humanity, or why we need to invest 500b to get to this

Do you use chatGPT many times throughout your day (i do)? If so did you ever want it to find the best hotel and book it for you? With chatGPT you can not do this now as all the travel websites do not have their own AI Agents for GPT to communicate with. Once they do you can type to GPT back and forth or talk to it to get anything and everything you now use the web to do. Yet your human like friend (AI friend/agent) will do for you.. U dont have to talk to it but if it's just like a human why not talk to it to do everything for you & use it as a knowledgebase. If you aren't aware you can now have a full back n forth conversation with chatGPT(it's not dumbass Siri).

All technological advances that are adopted are ones that made life easier and for some cooler then what they were once using (cell phone to iPhone put the web in our pocket but using your iPhone while driving is dangerous but talking to your human like friend isnt). Check out the movie H.E.R. as what Im describing is mostly what i describe above.

Time will tell if any of what im saying comes to fruition, but Silicon Valley is all a buzz about AI Agents in the last month or two and going forward.

Every single point you listed seems like a worst version of what I already have.

I want to interact with real people, not bots, I'm already spending most of my time wasting my life in front of a fucking screen for work

Sure but the AI genie is out of the bottle and the tech billionaires are barreling us towards AI friends/agents/assistants. If we stop the momentum China picks it up and American prosperity and security is at risk.

What i describe is much like the movie H.E.R. which Sam Altman chatGPT's CEO asked Scarlett Johansan (voice of the AI in that movie) to be the voice of GPT. GPT is now a little like H.E.R the movie as you can have a full conversation with it unlike Siri. Just atm you dont see how GPT looks .. it doesn't look like a FaceTime call with human AI friend/Assistant (how your AI Assistant/Friend looks.. could look and sound like a deceased loved one .. that's my own crazy idea not from the movie H.E.R). Yet maybe in the future it will.. I'm betting it will, but it's only a guess and time will tell.

Im awaiting your downvote :) but will revisit this thread in a few years or more. Well if im right ;)

> If we stop the momentum China picks it up and American prosperity and security is at risk.

How so ?

The biggest new technology where America controls/drives it and all other countries follow along .. we are & continue to be number one in AI technology and all other countries come to and or follow us that brings America billions to trillions of dollars ... the more money we have the more secure & prosperous America is & continues to be. As well creating new AI tech and using it to further protect America from adversaries.

The genie is out of the bottle and America must keep it's momentum in AI up .. ahead of all other countries for it's continued prosperity and security!

Sorry, you live in a different world, google glasses were aggressively lame, the ray bans only slightly less so.

But pulling out your phone to talk to it like a friend...

Well I use GPT daily to get things done and use it as a knowlegebase. I text and talk to it throughout the day, as well I think it's called "chat"GPT for a reason because it will evolve to the point where you feel like you are talking to a human. Tho this human is your assistant and does everything for you and interfaces with other AI agents to book travel, learn your friends/family schedules and anything you now do on the web there will be AI agent for that your AI agent interfacing with.

Maybe you have not seen the 2013 movie "H.E.R.?" Scarlett Johansan starred in it (her voice was the AI) and Sam Altman asked her to be the voice of chatGPT.

Overall this is what I see happening and excited for some of it or possibly all of it to happen. Yet time will tell :-) and it sounds like your betting none of it will happen ... we'll see :)

I suppose most anybody talking about this topic has seen Her by now (and if they haven't, they should, it's both a good movie and very relevant). The problem is rather that not everybody shares your enthusiasm about the utopia it depicts.

This is because it's also a dystopia in disguise. It's a social criticism and a cautionary tale about the way fetishizing technology is emotionally crippling us as individuals in a society. It kind of amazes me that this aspect seems to go over some people's heads.

It's obviously true what Booker said: What one person considers an ideal dream might to another person seem a nightmare.

Indeed yet chatGPT is already like H.E.R. yet there's no human like face to it ATM.

Im just jumping ahead utilizing what was seen in H.E.R. to envision where we are headed (possibly) as well adding my own crazy ... your AI Assistant Friend seen on your lock screen via a Facetime UI/UX call looks and sounds like a deceased loved one. Mom still guiding you through life.

That sounds creepy as hell to me. Are you serious, or is that an idea for a horror movie?

Edit: aaaand right after posting I stumble across a documentary running on TV in this very moment, in which a dying guy trained an AI on himself to accompany his widow after his death. Seems you're not the only one to find that desirable...

Very insightful take on agents interacting with agents thanks for sharing.

Re H.E.R phone - I see people already trying to build this type of product, one example: https://www.aphoneafriend.com

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