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Can someone dumb to me, a generalist engineer who has a very surface level knowledge of how training LLMs work: what people were doing before and what GRPO is doing different?

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They were using techniques like PPO that have a model (like a critic!) that evaluates whether the new model gives accurate responses. With GRPO, the don't have that and instead evaluate the answers based on predefined rules like coherence/ formatting. For example, for math problems, these rules will check if the answer adheres to math principles or logic!

I wrote more here (lmk if this is useful): https://www.vellum.ai/blog/the-training-of-deepseek-r1-and-w...

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