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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_accidents_and_in...

Seems to instantly prove you wrong ..

If anyone's wondering. Based on the link we have,

Fatalities:

  2025: 77 (2 fatal accidents)
  2024: 0
  2023: 0
  2022: 10 (1)
  2021: 0
  2020: 9 (1)
  2019: 7 (2)
  2018: 1 (1)
  2017: 0
  2016: 0
  2015: 0
  2014: 0
  2013: 13 (2)
  2012: 0
  2011: 0
  2010: 0

We do indeed seem to be having a particularly bad year. It's only February of 2025 and there's been more than double the total deaths than in the past decade

Deaths don't trickle in individually... one incident causes a huge surge. Any year with a single commercial airline crash is going to be a "particularly bad year"

Not minimizing these tragedies, they are real and hopefully there are some concrete actions we can take to make crashes even more rare. But its also true that your statistical analysis is poor.

Yes but we've had 2 major accidents in/over the US and it's only February

This must be commercial only too

Is Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 missing?

As far as I know, it still is.

(Sorry, could not resist...)

Not US.

Neither is the crash discussed here so it's odd list only US fatalities.

The comment said specifically "Major" accidents within specific time frame. I don't see anything in your link contradicting them. The claim was not that there were not any accidents.

And the convenient thing about a word like "major" is, you get to define it however you want!

Ok, then let's define it. There is a world of difference between Part 121, Part 135, and Part 91 operations. Almost no one in America will ever be on a 135 or 91 flight. If we limit ourselves to 121, which is what we're actually talking about when we talk about air travel, then you've got Southwest 1380, and before that you have to go all the way back to Colgan.

Yeah the President of the U.S. is totally responsible for the Toronto airport and traffic control.

Well its a flight from the US on a US airline

And the takeoff, in the US, was perfectly safe and uneventful.

Egg prices too

Clusters are normal in a random dataset

What? 346 people died in the two 737 MAX crashes in 2019 and 2020, but I guess three people getting injured is a lot more major since it happened in the country next door to the only country that counts.

I think they mean in the US specifically

I'm fairly certain Toronto is in Canada

Delta is a U.S. operator.

Boeing is a U.S. plane.

Well, yes, other than the minor wrinkle that the US hasn't actually annexed Canada yet.

Simply not true. You can move the goal posts wherever you want to make it true and tell whatever political story you want, but there have been major aircraft incidents basically every year since forever in the United States.

When was the second-to-last time an airliner crashed in the US?

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