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Congrats on beating HP Z2 Mini G1a and Nvidia Project Digits to market with 128GB of unified memory for LLMs, with bonus Framework port flexibility and a better price than Apple equivalents.

Does the desktop have a discrete physical TPM chip (needed for DRTM support on Windows/Linux/Qubes)? At present, AMD's PSP firmware emulates a "mobile" fTPM that does not support SKINIT.

Would you consider a future model with AMD Ryzen AI Max "Pro" SoC, which has additional security features?

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We've been moving to fTPM (AMD's Pluton TPU) in our last couple of generations, including on Framework Desktop. This is something where if we see strong demand to go back to dTPM that we can look at for future generations.

Ryzen PRO SKU would enable these security features, https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/laptop/ryzen-pro/...?

  Virtualization: interrupts, vIOMMU, nested paging, GMET, SLAT
  Security: memory encryption, Windows Device Guard, VBS, Secured Core
  Management: DASH for rack/cluster

LLM opacity makes inference hardware a target for silent subversion and manipulation of LLM output. Ryzen PRO security features can be used to configure Linux and Windows systems that verify integrity on every system launch.

Sorry to cross your excellent questions, but it doesn’t seem they are beating HP Z2 mini G1a to market. HP announced first week of January that it will be “available in spring”, while now framework announced for Q3.

It also seems HP will use the PRO version of the chip.

Kudos to framework for announcing the price and anchoring the market though!

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