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I’ve been using Firefox for nearly 20 years. Lately I’ve noticed more and more websites that don’t work with it. Usually I can just ignore the bugs or avoid the site, but sometimes it’s something that I have to do (like pay a bill) and so I have no choice but to keep a Chromium install around as well.

I really hate having to double-fist browsers, but I’m too stubborn to switch to a Chromium-based browser full time. I’ll use Firefox or any other alternative for as long as the web remains usable on them.

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I think it's our duty to use Firefox as much as possible, and only launch Chromium for the odd task where Firefox fails. This is the only way to fight the browser monopoly. We have to generate as much Firefox activity as possible, so that websites have to take it seriously as a platform and continue to develop against it.

I notice this only on web apps that should be native android apps (progressive web apps they are called, I believe).

Normal websites work almost always. Those that don't work typically don't support Firefox 's strict data protection mode (whatever that's called).

I REALLY hate that. Companies become so lazy and hire the worst web developers that don't have any clue and no self-respect.

I still keep using Firefox . Ultimately there's an alternative for everything and if a company doesn't want me as a visitor or customer, so be it.

> Usually I can just ignore the bugs or avoid the site, but sometimes it’s something that I have to do (like pay a bill) and so I have no choice but to keep a Chromium install around as well.

It's very odd, because recently I've had more of the opposite, where Edge (Chromium based) doesn't work, but Firefox does: on the sites where I pay my water and gas bills. Not that sites don't break on Firefox either, I've had that too, it's just odd that sometimes the mainstream browser doesn't work (wonder if it's an extension issue).

In my twenty years of using Firefox on every computing device I have ever owned, I have NOT ONCE encountered a website that didn't work on Firefox, including purchases and bill paying.

Even our internal only app that is used for internal management stuff only breaks in tiny and unimportant ways (ie a raw data viewer doesn't load), and probably just needs a polyfill.

I've noticed that some sites are buggy on Firefox (hello YouTube) but I don't think I've ever had to actually switch to Chrome to do anything. Maybe it helps that I mostly use electrical invoicing, so I don't really need to use a browser to pay my bills.

I only use firefox, and I have since Firefox 16 or something. What issue does YouTube have for you?

I don't have any issues with firefox, and I seriously smell astroturf, when day after day Firefox gets bashed.

People use different sites, so I believe it, especially "local" ones of zero interest to people in other countries.

That said, I've not used chrome on personal machines as a default browser for many years, and at work I also avoid it.

I don't remember when I last stumbled over a page that didn't work in Firefox... which then worked in any other Browser and was not broken per se. Or they didn't work with Firefox + UBlock Origin, which is fair as Chrome just blocks less.

Some sites block by user agent, you may just need to use an extension to spoof it and the site should work. Some browsers like Vivaldi do that by default. Though, this sucks, but it's better than the alternative.

I only launch chrome for google meets and google maps.

I don't know about Google Meet, as I don't use it, but why Google Maps? It's been working fine on FF for me.

Just more sluggish than on Chrome.

Are these bugs in the website or in firefox?

The website, usually.

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