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> Yes, but I need some practice > being hungry after years of stuffing > my face whenever I felt like it.

Why do you need such practice?

I'd honestly rather suffer an hour doing unpleasant cardio to burn off carbs than spending all day feeling miserable and shaky from hunger. Particularly on jobs or tasks where mental focus is essential.

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I've found the hunger only lasts 10 minutes or so at times you body thinks are meal times, and actually, having a metal task you can throw yourself into really helps.

I've never experienced shakes, and its not misery per se, but you are constantly reminded you are overweight. :)

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