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The same Sarah Paine that speaks about how China lifted 1B+ people out of poverty and created tens of millions of millionaires?

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Isnt it objectively true that China is the only country to lift 500m people from poverty? The debate is whether the power to do that needs to come from a single party so powerful it can starve 50m without repercussion.

Sarah C. Paine, the professor of strategy and policy at the U.S. Naval War College. I'm not aware of what you're talking about.

That was who I was referring to as well.

I'm not sure what your point was. Are you contesting the numbers she cites?

Largely after abandoning damaging communist ideas and allowing private business to exist.

China is no longer communist, it's this weird hybrid of capitalism with heavy government controls and heavy censorship.

Yeah, The Economist regularly writes these articles that spend half the time praising the intense competition in certain sectors of the economy and half the time bemoaning the influence of state-owned enterprises (or other CCP instruments) in others. It seems to vary a lot by specific industry.

> China is no longer communist, it's this weird hybrid of capitalism with heavy government controls and heavy censorship.

I think the established term is 'state capitalism'.

Which is owned by the Government

In my mind, Communism as exhibited by modern China is more defined by the dictatorship style, than the economy style, not that economy is independent of it. So, I'd consider the chinese communism vs western democracy a more enlightnening contrast.

In some areas China is even becoming more liberal than the EU.

Look at DeepSeek.

Which happened immediately after they abandoned the planned economy

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