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https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-funded-hamas-claims-e...
PS. I am not on the "side" of israel or palestine, if Israel were to have these numbers and systemic colonialist oppression I would jump to supporting them and pushing for humanitarian support. I just recognise the moral reality of the situation. Me, and most people like me, are on the side of humanitarianism, because all lives are equal, and so are all deaths.
(I think that you can only comment on a new comment after a couple of minutes)
It's pretty amazing how much bs you're willing to believe about Israel, yet not a single critique of the perpetrators of this attack or their supporters. Sounds to me like you're just set on condemning Israel no matter what the numbers say, no matter who attacks who, no matter if rape happens, children get kidnapped. It's weird.
Your classic claims of "un bias" "kangaroo court" and "world is biased against israel" have been proven wrong a hundredfold, and are stale and archaic by this point, and people will never stop supporting palestinians, because people who know they are moral and are set on being moral won't be put off, no matter how much you try and twist the knife. you wont silence morality, equality, or humanity, no matter how much you try to to help your narrative.
There is only one colonialist expansionist force in the region.
False. False. False.
‣ re: genocide [genocide Gaza](https://www.google.com/search?q=genocide%20gaza) ‣ re: ethnic cleansing [ethnic cleansing](https://www.google.com/search?q=ethnic%20cleansing%20israel) ‣ re: apartheid [apartheid `Israel`](https://www.google.com/search?q=apartheid%20israel)
What does it say about your view of the world that what you claim to be nonsense are in demonstrable facts of reality?
I'm not going to spend half-an-hour posting and explaining each and every link from pages and pages and simple Google searches. To summarize:
(1) The architecture of oppression in that part of the world has been characterized as apartheid [“Israel imposing apartheid on Palestinians, says former Mossad chief”](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/06/israel-imposin...) by many many many individuals (both Israeli and non-Israeli) and organization. You say there's no apartheid and yet a former Mossad chief says there is.
In order for there to be an apartheid there must be an architecture of oppression. `Israel` is intent on resolving the conflict arising directly from this oppression by removing the source of the problem, that is to say
by (2) ethnic cleansing which is why the Naqba, the forced expulsion of ~750,000 people with no right to return in contradistinction to the so-called "right of return" worldwide Jewry with no links to the land beyond ancient ancient religious history,
and (3) it tuns out now as we can all see with our very own eyes that `Israel` is now also willing to take the ultimate step, they are willing to commit genocide. They told us they were going to commit genocide. They then proceeded to carry out a genocide (which they paused and restarted) and they boast about committing a genocide. The ICJ rules that what `Israel` is in the process of carrying out what conceivably amounts to genocide and the ICC incredibly announced arrest warrants for the European-born Benjamin Netanyahu (sorry, I mean Benzion Mileikowsky) and Yoav Gallant. The horror we've witnessed on a daily basis and you deny reality to its face.
> If you read about the history of the conflict, every single time Israel has defended itself against Hamas (Israel has responded 100% defensively)
False.
`Israel`, with the backing of the USA, is an occupying power. By definition an occupying power is an oppressor. Every people have a right under international law to resist oppression, to resist occupation. If and when they do resist the occupying power is not "defending itself" the occupying power seeks to perpetuate the architecture of oppression.
> it's been called a genocide. [every single time Israel has defended itself it's been called a genocide.]
False.
I want to point out that even though what you're saying is false† … even if it were true (which it is not†) … it doesn't negate that what is presently taking place in Gaza is tantamount to genocide. That's a transparent fallacy. Say I went around calling every animal I saw a cow. I see a cat and call it a cow. I see a dog and call it a cow. You get the idea. I'd be misclassifying animals, right? (Misclassifying them as cows). Now let's say that I then see a cow and called it a cow. Just because I had up to this point been misclassifying animals (as cows) it doesn't then follow that cows are not cows. That's how unsophisticated your argument is.
> Even the blockage was called a genocide.
blockade‡ False.
Gaza is under an air/land/sea blockade which is illegal under international law. The blockade has not been in any remotely widespread fashion called a genocide.
> Also the pager attack, which was the most targeted attack in history, has been called a genocide. This nonsense has to stop.
False.
Perhaps they were to some degree but not a all widely and not by prominent voices.
> Also yes, anti-zionism is anti-semitism.
False.
categorically and demonstrably false … take [Betar Worldwide](https://betarus.org/) … on their homepage they say “WE ARE BETAR: LOUD PROUD ZIONIST ACTIVISTS WE STAND STRONG JEWS FIGHT BACK LEAD PROUD FIGHT ANTI SEMITISM” … loud proud Zionist activists” (got that?) … this is the same org who on who have posted three times on April the 5th (2025) that “They are all Nazis.” with an image with the text “THERE ARE NO INNOCENTS IN GAZA” [They are all Nazis.](https://x.com/Betar_USA/status/1908369503630606404) … not to mention the actual government of Israel itself* [“THERE ARE NO INNOCENT CIVILIANS THERE.”](https://x.com/DrJillStein/status/1802832054280950263) and I'm presuming the government of Israel is Zionist – given that Zionism in its present form is a genocidal movement criticism of Zionism cannot be antisemitism. We must be able to criticize genocide. Saying “anti-zionism is anti-semitism” is a false equivalence and tries to use cancel culture tactics to silence dissent. It's a disgusting underhanded maneuver.
> Zion is a mountain in jerusalem, mount zion. Jews gravitate towards Jerusalem and "Zion" in the same way Muslims gravitate towards Mecca. It's like if I wanted to destroy Mecca, but said I'm not anti-muslim. It's a ridiculous argument.
Huh? So what if that is where the Zion in Zionism/Zionist originates from. What a nonsense (to use the categorization that you employed) argument.
You made at least eight factually incorrect claims in the space of 123 words according to my word count. That's a factual error once every 15 words. To me nowadays that is what Zionism is; it is counterfactual to its core and has become pro-genocidal – in fact in hindsight the genocide was built into the ideology.
† as in, it is false that whenever `Israel` responds to Palestinian resistance that said response is consistently deemed to be genocide – I've been following the `Israel`/Palestine so-called conflict for all of my adult life and this present horror that is being unleashed in Gaza post Oct. 7th is the first time many and multiple serious voices have called what Israel is doing genocide.
‡ [Blockade of the Gaza Strip](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip)
Second, apartheid are a set or racist laws within a country. There is no apartheid in Israel, every citizen has equal rights including the 2 MILLION muslim arabs living there. There are Arabic political parties, Arabic supreme court judges, there was actually an Arabic supreme court judge that sent an Ashkenazi president to prison! That's not apartheid, this would never have happened in South Africa.
Genocide when you try to kill an entire people. Here is the definition "the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group." How is 50k death, with about half of them being Hamas genocide? It's laughable. Israel, as they've stated many times, are after Hamas. If anything you need to re-examine your perspective. Hamas is who committed genocide, they were just too weak to pull it off.
It's funny that you mention "The Nakba" and you don't even know what it means. For starters the "catastrophe" isn't the displacement. What people mean by it is that they failed to destory Israel. Second, it didn't happen in a vaccuum. It was part of the larger context of the Arab Israeli war, where 5 countries, including many people residing in the region attempted to genocide (your favorite word) the newly formed Israel. Also, literally every history book that isn't 100% one-sided will show you that it was a mix of reasons for the 700,000 people that were displaced. Many, if not most, were urged to leave by their leader who told them they would annihilate the Jews and they could go back, some left out of fear, since war was coming, obviously, and some were driven out, which makes sense. If you attack a people, they will drive you out. Another thing that isn't mentioned there which IS an ethnic cleansing, is the ethnic cleansing of Jews from Arabic countries during that same period. If you look at the population of Arabic countries from 1948 and now you will see a stark stark difference. You definitely won't see something like 2,000,000 Jews living in these places.
What is Israel and the U.S. occupying this is a nonsense argument as well. People who claim that, think that somehow the entirety of Israel is occupied. More nonsense.
The blockade is not illegal, if it was it still wouldn't matter as no country can be expected to absorb terrorist attacks. Funny how the focus is always on Israel and not Egypt, who has a "blockade" as well. Btw, these did not exist until the Intifadas. They make sense.
The pager attack, was the single most accurate military attack in military history.
Writing "false" on my arguments doesn't maks you right. You are just spreading propaganda, and I urge anyone reading this research this on their own. You are both extremely uneducated on this and need to read books not do Google searches.