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https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9vedkm7w2do

I'm assuming the response to this is going to be along the lines of 'oh this doesnt prove he was innocent, they say he was a member of ms-13 etc etc etc' because evidently innocent until proven guilty (which they provided no proof of) isn't a thing anymore

If you google "innocent man sent to el salvador" you'll get dozens on dozens on dozens of results from which you can pick your favorite news site to catch up.

I checked the first two results and not one of them said the man was innocent [1][2]. It's okay if the claim is baseless and there is no citation, but asking me to find a citation for someone else's baseless claim is not really okay.

[1]: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/14/abrego-garci...

[2]: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-meet-with-el-salvador...

>asking me to find a citation for someone else's baseless claim is not really okay.

It is one of the biggest news stories in the last month, and various articles (at least 3 that I can think of) have been here on HN. It's trivially searchable. Asking for a citation is almost certainly bad faith.

>I checked the first two results and not one of them said the man was innocent

It's pretty obscure, but there's this thing called "innocent until proven guilty". The man never had his time in court. The US admitted it was a mistake. What are you looking for? Just being contrarian for the sake of it?

Our system deems people innocent until proven guilty of a crime. That has not happened - he is not charged with any.

Can you cite anything showing him having been convicted of something?

I made no claim one way or the other. I asked you to cite a claim.

All you do is ask for "cite?" and then complain when the citation isn't want you asked for, partly because you never ask for anything specific. You're just a troll.

Then here’s the cite.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presumption_of_innocence

You probably were taught this in elementary school.

"The Trump administration trapped a wrongly deported man in a catch-22", "There is no evidence that Abrego García is a terrorist or a member of the gang MS-13 as the Trump administration has claimed." from your first link.

Check any website with news from the last few weeks.

Cite? Really? I haven’t seen an article about the situation or the visit that didn’t mention it.

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