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Why? The article is about how nations are perceived.

Given the current climate, I’m not surprised that China is perceived as a more positive role than the US.

From my own perspective; They seem to be interested in maintaining stability in international trade, which keeps peace and allows people to keep their jobs.

America is a free market who uses its military to keep shipping and global trade free from interference. We deport some illegal immigrants.

China is a communist country with real life re-education camps. They manipulate markets and steal intellectual property. They’ve been cozied up to authoritarian and oppressive regimes, like Russia, for a long time.

That’s worse for stability in my opinion.

> China is a communist country with real life re-education camps. They manipulate markets and steal intellectual property. They’ve been cozied up to authoritarian and oppressive regimes, like Russia, for a long time.

Yes, definitely agree.

> America is a free market who uses its military to keep shipping and global trade free from interference. We deport some illegal immigrants.

I think everything you said about China applies to America now, just for shorter period of time than for China. America's government officials say things that are indistinguishable from Kremlin propaganda. Directives and tariffs are put in place to directly manipulate markets in other countries. America is now deporting immigrants that were allowed to stay in America to prisons where human rights are violated. America's Secretary of Health is advocating for labor and re-education camps.

With China, I feel like we know how insidious they are and what they do. With America, we have no clue how far it will go.

So out of two evils, currently I expect China to be the lesser one. That really says something.

China is an apartheid state with actual concentration camps. Hundreds of millions of people in forced labor, several hundred million more in deplorable living conditions, the world's largest polluter, and has ambitions of invading their neighbor. They are also the main supporter of Russian occupation of Ukraine while ignoring sanctions to conduct business with Iran supplying them with materials to make drones and bombs.

The average non-party Chinese family lives in a less 60 SQ meters home. Works 60 hours a week, has no assets, and is marketed cigarettes by the government.

People bitching about the US and praising China are ridiculous.

I don't disagree, but like I said to the other responder: All this applies to America now and we don't know how much worse this will get.

> People bitching about the US and praising China are ridiculous.

It's not bitching about the US and praising China. It's "Which one of these do you think is the lesser evil?". Until very recently, most people would pick China. With the current momentum, more people are picking America. Maybe the situation stabilises in America, and people start seeing China as the bigger evil again. Maybe it keeps the current trajectory, then definitely America.

Reputation is about perception. Both can be seen as bad, but but one can still be worse than the other.

If not pure propaganda it's ignorant delusion. The US removing a small number of criminals illegally in the country draws massive correlations to Nazi Germany, meanwhile China has 1 million+ people in actual concentration camps simply based on their ethnicity.

The fact that other countries aren't standing up to China as much as the US is now is the thing that's really mind bending.

We're standing up to all the countries that have threatened to invade us.

You’re spot on.

There really is no comparison. China has real life re-education camps not make believe ones.

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