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Given the unfathomably bloated mess the desktop issue has become it doesn't entirely belong in the list of recommended clients.

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There’s no other cross platform GUI client I can think of.

Claws and Sylpheed come to mind.

* https://www.claws-mail.org/downloads.php

* https://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/download.html

Compare those to https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/all

I can't find a current download for modern macOS on either of the first two

https://brew.sh/

Shouldn't need Homebrew to install a GUI email client.

Really shouldn't need to explain that, IMO.

Has the goal post been moved enough now? The author shouldn't need to explain why a 350 MiB monster like Thunderbird isn't in their list of recommended options for making the move to basic plain-text email.

It must be difficult for you to appreciate the idea of not gatekeeping email. If you’re trying to get people to use plain text email in 2025, Thunderbird is the only obvious choice for a GUI client.

It runs everywhere and can be installed by anyone.

Why do want to make it harder for people?

I'm not trying to gatekeep anything or complicate for anyone. I didn't write the list, I just agree with it for obvious reasons relating to plain-text e-mailing. I run Thunderbird. I think you ran out of talking points and had to switch to accusations.

Your suggestion was that Mac users who want a a GUI should use homebrew.

If that’s not gatekeeping I don’t know what to tell you.

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