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> the lawsuit notes that the ordinance's wording still inherently runs afoul of due process rights. That's because the ordinance provides no clear standard, no ability for Sarkisian to appeal or contest her neighbor's complaint, and no right to a hearing. According to PLF's complaint, this effectively gives her neighbor "a standardless and unreviewable veto over Kathy's use of her own property."

NIMBY policy in a nutshell: All power goes to those who object.

It's strange that the city made the mistake of issuing the permit but is now trying to retroactively un-permit the chickens because one person complained.

Stories like this and even the more casual HOA stories make me glad I live in an area where most families are too busy with their lives to be nit picking minutia in their neighbors' yards.

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> All power goes to those who object.

I see this all the time in the private sector where if just 1 person in a team objects to a decision, the team has to jump thru many hoops to make something barely reasonable happen

What happened to "just deal with it?"

I think it's viewed that those words are too cruel, or not nice. But actually, when you give up those words, you end up with a society far more cruel and not nice.

I see the mindset you describe and I think it also hurts the ability to get feedback. People who don't feel strongly enough to want to be a roadblock if everyone else agrees will tend to silence themselves. Multiply this by the whole team and you get proposal -> crickets -> "if there are no objections I guess we move forward?", even though the whole team actually has reservations.

If there's someone on the team who really truly vehemently disagrees with a direction, the team would be well advised to give serious consideration before overriding that veto, but for normal soft-disagrement we really should normalize the idea that we don't need unanimity to more forward.

You'll never convince me spaces are better than tabs, but I consent to using them anyway.

Ha! What is your context? I had trouble finding a dentist. One did a filling and then sent me on my way. I said, Don’t you use that blue paper to find the contact points and adjust the bite?

“You’ll get used to it.”

With a few cameras it's probably possible to automatically determine how noisy are people in any given neighborhood, "More than 50% of the people here spend more than 80% of their day at home", maybe there should be a standard measure for it, NIMBYness-meter.

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