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We can talk about things even if we haven't been abused.

Sure it’s just funny all the comments, yours included, are focusing on the potential for false slander when the whole point is to prevent people who have been hurt from getting hurt again. It’s just missing the mark imo.

I think you're approaching this from a very narrow and naive standpoint. There's no magic that makes this app save anyone from abuse, makes information correct, and that's not even the entire intent of the app it seems. No reason an abuser couldn't use it just the same.

I think if you thought about it you'd realize that his app's format, people posting pics of other people without their permission and commenting on them follows the same mechanism as sites where the people posting ARE abusers, even help track people down...

What is to stop an abusive woman from posting their ex and slandering and vilifying them to thousands or millions of other women?

> people posting pics of other people without their permission and commenting on them follows the same mechanism as sites where the people posting ARE abusers

This exactly (unless there is legally provable wrongdoing to report).

I was abused and also falsely slandered in different, unrelated incidents. Am I qualified to speak on this?

You’re allowed to speak about whatever you want. My comment was an observation on the trend of the comments prior to mine which has now been downvoted into oblivion because I’m the narrow minded one :)

Why is it not enough to seek a well-educated person with a good demeanor and character, and to break off the relationship otherwise?

Why are these not of help: established background search services, video chat, location sharing, ID exchange, etc.

How do you know what "all the women" are sharing is even true?

Do you think it would be okay for men to also have an app to share dirty laundry about women? If not, why not? (I don't, but at least I am consistent.)

Because all of those rely on signals that can be faked. What background service will know that a man cheated on his previous partner? She may be the only one who knows and by sharing it she prevents another from the same fate.

Of course there are concerns with false signals here as well so I’m not saying it’s perfect but people have a right to defend themselves. And if you’re a good person the chance of you getting falsely slandered on the app is low because why would anyone bother?

I’m fine with men having a similar system and I would imagine there is a group for it.

> if you’re a good person

And don't do anything controversial. And keep or share space with squeaky clean company. And avoid pissing others off.

This whole 'if you're a good person you have nothing to fear' BS stinks of the same ignorance as "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear". It is like capriciousness does not exist in the heads of these fools.

Women (or people) can be highly emotional at times, and they risk blurting out nonsense on the app when they're in a bad mood. It is precisely at these times when they can do their worst.

Of course I want them to be safe, but safety begins with seeking good proxy traits in a person that minimize the risk of abusive behavior to begin with. They also sometimes continue an abusive relationship when they should be ending it asap.

Also, there are worse things, like STIs, that the app could do nothing about, with the point being that anyone who shares a recent panel result is likely invested in mutual safety anyway.

> Do you think it would be okay for men to also have an app to share dirty laundry about women?

I mean it doesn't take much to find revenge porn sites or deep fake outlets ...

It's just become so normal any one trying to make a fuss about it like this current topic, simply gets shrugged off

Sites that formerly looked like revenge porn do not enjoy freedom of speech. Rebrand them into safety sites and they do. That’s the side effect of legitimization here.

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